Fan Mail 3
Since I have received so many fan letters and since both Fan Mail 1 and 2 pages were getting very full, I have added a Fan Mail 3 Page. Here you will find some older letters from the fans. I did NOT want to delete them to make space for the newer ones, so here it is, FAN MAIL 3.... - Mr. Saint Fan

Hey bro: Sign me up for the preorder of the "In the Battle" package! I've been a fan of Saint since I first bought Warriors of the Son back in '85, so I would be getting this no matter what, but the way my bud David (King of Metal) has been raving about the song you sneaked him, I'm positively salivating to get my hands on it! You guys are gonna be causing a buzz when this disc hits the streets! I'll send you the money order tomorrow I hope, and if anything comes with a signature on it, I would not complain. ;) Nick
Josh, In the Battle seems to be a big hit at the Christian Metal Realm. The reponse from people has been great. Just thought you'd like to know. Have a nice weekend Bro, Tim
Hey Josh how is it going? I have been a big Saint fan since I heard Time's End back when you put it out and have been a fan of the other christian metal bands as well. I E-mailed Richard a while ago and was wondering when your new cd is coming out. I have never seen you guy's live but would love to or even sit down and talk to anyone of you guy's over lunch and bring back the memories. I have been looking for people who like the same music as me around the web, I have been to christian web sites and have had no luck. ... I received your truckload of stuff!!! That was truely awsome I thank you for taking the time for me to pack all that stuff up.
I have had ample time to review your new album I am a tuff critic when it comes to music but you guy's pulled it off again. You can make an entire cd with no dud's.
I have to say that "Riders" is a true masterpiece I love the guitars in that one. And "When" is something we all have been thinking about you just made it a really cool song. Well I know you are busy I sure hope there are some kind of plans of performing I don't care where you do it but I would like to know about it I may run out there to see it! Ok take care. -Darren Cedar,MN
Josh..I just wanted you to know that I am 31 and I have been a saint fan since 1987.You guys were among the bands thats music reached out to me when I was akid and lead me down a better road. I ended up going from the streets to lead a youth ministry, be a camp counselor, promote some christian concerts, and then finally front my own christian metal band.Your work made a difference.Thank you!!! I have a limited edition warriors of the son cd that i picked up at the Ichthus festival, and a cassette of too late for living that I have had for years. I no longer have times end but i'd sure love to have a copy. I cant wait til you guys get a new one done. Please add me to any mailing list you might have.God bless and God speed, Paul
Hi Josh, I started listening to Saint's music in '84. Hearing you sing Warriors Of The Son was so unlike anything this then-14 yr old had ever heard. I was hooked from the time I heard it. I found Too Late For Living on cassette in '88, I believe. After that, it was as if you guys fell from the face of the earth. I often wondered if there was Saint music floatingaround that I didnt know about. Then in 2002, I received blasts from my past when I found your first 2 albums on reissued CDs, being sold on EBay.
Of course, I made sure I was the highest bidder. I've listened to both CDs a lot lately, including time spent in my car just today. I think "Time's End" is my favorite Saint song of them all. I stumbled on to the Saint website today and read the news of the release of "In The Battle" and the re-recording of "Warriors". I'm very excited about things to come. I kinda feel like I'm 14 again. I just wanted to let you know that your music meant a great deal to me 20 years ago, and means a lot to me even now. I can now introduce your music to my sons, ages 13 & 9, and that's very exciting. God Bless you, Josh. Keep on rocking. Sincerely, Lance
Hey Josh! Whats up man. I'm so sorry I haven't emailed you in a good while. I've been pretty busy. You know how that is. So what have you been up to man. Dude, I've got a friend that loves 80's metal just like me, and he's never heard saint before and yesterday I let him listen to Time's End. He was floored! He honestly couldn't believe how awsome you guys sounded. What can I say, SAINT IS THE BEST!!!! Your buddy in Christ, -Larry P.S.-SAINT RULES!!!
Dear Josh, Hello i'm Mike from Rochester Minnesota, i started listening to Saint from the times end album, Times end and Too late for living always blew me away-your vocals are awsome, and now i found you on the internet and heard of a new album, wow what can i say! its a dream come true!! my heart was broken when the band stoped making music but i understand you have to do what you need to do, now i will get the CD's of the old albums and wish you the best in the future, its bands like Saint that give us hope and show that God is alive and working through us all and his message will be heard!!!! amen!!, god bless you, thanks for the music! Michael ---------- Josh: Thank you for your letter. It totally made my day! My heart was broken too when we stopped being a band. We often times look back on our lives and wonder "Was it the lord's will to do this or that, go here or there, take this road or that road. I'm reminded of the movie," Dumb and Dumber" when Jim Carry was driving, he looked down for a split second and missed their turn, failing to notice that they went backwards until much later. How many times do we do that in life and the decisions we make? I can count a few in my life.
Do you know about the basement tapes, Saint's all time faves off of Warriors of the son, Times End and Too late for living, my radio days as a secular radio station disc jocky and my audio book all wrapped up in a 4 cd set? It is now available. If you would like more info, let me know. Thank you again for your very uplifting letter. Sincerely, Josh
Mike: Thanks for the reply, that made my day too! Yes I would like more info on the basement tapes, thanks for posting my letter-thats fine, God bless and have a great day. P.S I am a Gulf War vet of 1991 and believe me your music went with me to help with the hard times-thanks again for the uplifting music!, Mike
Josh, I just wanted to write and let you know that you guys really touch my life. God brought your message and music style my way and thats when my whole life changed. I was a pagan at the time listened to alot of 80s metal and was headed for the dead end. I got your first music taste with Times End from a dude I knew in high school man did it hit me hard then I got a copy of your To late for living cd it blew me away That song was about me I felt the same way.
To make a long story short I found me a small church and accepted Jesus as my savior So to answer alot of peoples question is Christain metal of God? Absolutely! I am a wittness to that as well as many others out there. God bless you Josh and the members of Saint, for God is pleased with you all. IN CHRIST, Sir Tobias, A big fan ---------- Dear Sir Tobias, Thank you for your very encouraging letter. Words like yours touch our hearts as well. You are why we do what we do. Thanx again for your great letter. Hope to scream and froth at the mouth on a stage near you soon!.....May God richly bless you and yours......Josh Kramer
Hi Josh,
My name is David, I am 30 yrs old now, but when I was 14 I heard your band for the first time. My life was never the same. To this day I can sing the lyrics to any song "word for word" on Too Late for Living and Time's End. My friends and I would air jam to your tapes and I would pretend I was you!!! LOL well, I would not miss a syllabal. Sounds silly I know, but I am just being truthful. In fact it was before cds and I actually had to replace my tapes several times because they got worn out (I am not exaggerating)!
I trained my voice to somewhat sound like yours and I guess it does ... not that I would ever be that good! I had my fanclub card and everything. I especially miss my "manhole Mike t shirt" :-( I heard about what happened to you guys in California and the whole break up. I am so glad you are still around! I am married now ... and sing your songs to my wife a lot. She likes it too!! "red alert star craft approaching everybody put on your gear"OR "take this bitter cup, death won't be my friend"
Okay ... I am tearing up already. It just brings back memories, because you see ... I used to be suicidal and when I would listen to your songs ... I turned my life to Christ in 1988.
I am now a minister of the gospel and sometimes when I preach I refer to your band. I hope that is okay. It is quite a testimony and makes a good sermon! I even heard before anyone else that your next album would have been called "to live forever."
Well, ... sorry for writing so much ... I know you don't want to read a novel or anything. I just am so ecstatic that you are still around ... I honestly almost cried when I found out on the Sanctuary website. It was just posted today. Your Biggest Fan in the Whole Universe, David, Minnetonka, MN
Josh, Thanks for all the updated news! I'm looking forward to hearing the new and improved "Warriors of the Son". Actually, I guess I need to listen to the original version first since I've only ever listened to it once or twice! You also mention there is going to be an album #6 soon! I thought all good things were supposed to come to an end?! Not so with Saint, it appears!! Ross
Hi Josh. Thanks for gettin back so soon. I supposed it may be too late to get repromoting In the Battle. I think it is a very strong record for what you were shooting for. Just finished listening to it cranked up in my living room. Love it! Too bad there wasn't the financial backing of the churches etc to really make the album happen, so that it could be taken to the mainstream metal audiences. If I had a record company with resouces, (dreaming....), I would repackage the album, remix it, add a few more photos inside and re-release it focusing on European metal audiences who still support power metal. Actually this style of music is very popular in Europe right now. Bands like Blind Guardian, Stratovarius, Sentenced, Children of Bodom, Iced Earth, etc are huge right now. You could totally capitalize on this power metal movement. You should still send out copies to the European magazines and record companies. There still may be some hope!
I really hope Saint can have a few good years of renewed ministry with new albums and tours. But I really think it has to happen in the metal mainstream, and not hidden away in the tiny (almost non existent) Christian rock scene. The Christian metal scene has been basically dead for about 5 years, with the exception of a handful of bands. There is still a Christian hardcore and punk scene, but not much for metal. The only band really still going to some extent is Tourniquet, who are fizzling out. Living Sacrifice broke up. Deliverance broke up. Stryper reformed and are over now. What is left of the scene that was going strong from 1983 to 1998? The scene fizzled out for many reasons: poor record companies, lack of business sense, bands changing member too often, substandard productions/packaging, lack of touring, lack of mainstream promotion and support, lack of originality in the music, and bands breaking up. Why put your eggs in the "Christian" scene basket, when the basket doesn't have a bottom! There is no Christian scene to speak of anymore. There are maybe 2000 of us old loyal followers of the scene left in all of North America. Not 100,000 like the old days. You know what I am talking about. You were leaders in that scene, and have seen what has happened. It really upsets me the more I think about it. But you need to take your music to the metal fans in the world. It can't be hidden away on a couple Christian bookshelves, or on a website. Where is the ministry in that? These lyrics need to be taken to the people who need to hear an alternative to Satanic lyrics. David
I still remember seeing you guys back in 1988 playing at the HIS 2 Festival in Fontana, CA. that Keith Miles put on (Keith Miles is known as Steven Tyler the vocalist of TITANIC & now, SUBDUX). He was in HOLY RIGHT from 1985-1988 & then formed FINAL AXE. Anyway, don't ask me how I remember this, but you guys started the show with, "Phantom Of The Galaxy," & then right into, "Steel Killer." The last song you guys did was, "Warriors Of The Son." I don't remember the sequence of the other songs, but I do remember that, "Warriors.." was the only song you guys did from that album. The ones you did from, "Time's End," were: "In The night," "Time's End," "Primed & Ready," "Phantom..," & "Steel Killer." As far as the ones from, "Too Late..." I only remember, "Too Late For Living." -----TIM ----------- rich an i are the only origional members and i can't find any vinal of warriors of the son. try rad rockers and some of the distribution sites listed in the shameless plugs page in my site. that is so cool that you remembered the songs and their order ......later......josh
Thanks Josh for the info. About me remembering the order you guys played the songs in, I only remember the first 2 songs you guys did were, "Phantom.." & "Steel Killer." After that, I have no idea what order the other songs were in. The encore song was, "Warriors.." which was the only one you did from that album. From, "Time's End," you guys did, "In The Night," & everything from side 2 except, "Destroyers." I do remember you did, "Too Late.." but not sure what other ones from that album. As far as getting, "Too Late.." on vinyl, I think I know of a place that has it. As far as getting, "Warriors.." on vinyl, I haven't seen it anywhere. At least I have, "Time's End" on vinyl & even though I played the heck out of it, it's surprisingly in great shape! Thanks, TIM
josh, you ' re making me so happy! can ' t wait for new SAINT-Stuff. You are my favorite Band at the moment and i love your Bandfotos and everything. Hope to see you some time in Germany. I surely keep my Support for SAINT and tell everybody how great you are :-) I ' ve listened to Ryders many times, when i had to stay in the hospital this summer - such a great song! Thanks! Greets, Stefan
Hail Josh! I hear the new song of you indicate me. This is a really killer song! Is one of the greatest songs in the history of Saint. Congratulations! The "new album" indicate be a great work. I'm a grateful by you send to me. I wait for all the answers of interview (i and all those brazilian fans). I much believe in potential of our contact, a great hug for you! Maurcio
thanks for that link i just finished listening to the song. that song rulez i can't wait for the new album. it's 12:23 am here so i can't turn the music up loud cuz my dad is sleeping. but tomorrow i will crank your song up your vocals have in proved so much. since t.l.f.l. at the end of the song you totally blew me away that song still have that 80's feel. will the band update the music with future albums or stay with the 80's feel? jim -------- were gonna hang with the 80's feel but with a more modern production and edgy leads by dee. ......josh
Josh, My copy of In the Battle just arrived in the mail. I was surprised to see the picture the band signed. I wanted to thank you guys for adding that nice gift for your fans. God bless you guys, Tim
Hey Josh, just a note to let you know that your new album is getting good reviews from the members of the Stryper forum. They like the "classic" Saint sound and the fact that you are not trying to go "nu metal"!!! Hope all is well in Salem. Maybe one day soon I will make a trip down that way and we could meet. Your friend, Roger A.K.A. Strypedog (in the stryper forum) Oh yeah,I think the new album ROCKS!!!!!
I got the CD on Friday and I am still listening to it. It is awesome. I burned a copy for my car CD player and plan on listening to it while going to work in the morning ( I hope thats ok). I remember when I got the Too Late For Living record that I kept wondering when there would be another Saint album. It might have been a long wait, but it was well worth the wait. I hope you can get a concert going maybe with Bride or Petra. I would like to see you in my neck of the woods even if I had to travel 4-6 hours. Keep up the good work. Scott
Just at this moment i have heard some demos of your new CD on the angelfire homepage.And what can i say.For me absolut great Music with the power of the old times. I can`t believe it because most of the older Bands can`t hold the spirit of the 80`s but you are definitiv one who is able to do. And in my opinion,the vocals are very good.This is also one of the negativ aspects when old Bands try to do new records. So i think "Rob Halford" should be look on your homepage...and try to sing better :-) That is what i like to say first,and now i can`t wait for this CD. Detlef
Dear Josh, You don't know me and I don't know you but I've been a fan of Saint from the 80s on. How exciting to hear out of the blue that you're back and a new album is out! Sign me up! I ordered it at the paypal store for 14 dollars. I hope to get the Nicolas cd and basement tapes with it. There was no opportunity in paypal to ask specifically, so I just may have to order it seperately later. Anyway, God bless, have fun, glad to hear about the band again. I just played Star Pilot for my new baby girl yesterday. That took me back, but I wanted her exposed to the good stuff like Saint, Disciple, DA, 77s, Stonehill, Newsboys, Saviour Machine and such before she ever hears the name Britney Spears. She shall have good taste! I swear it!! My 5 year old likes Rebecca St James and Stacie Orrico. Her tastes are good but a bit mellower than I would like. (Though I love Stacie Orrico and Rebecca St James- their cds are in my car now). Enjoy God's blessings, Nicholas
Below is a SAMPLE mp3.
Warlord, By Templar.
Josh Kramer, lead vocal and backing vocs.
Rich Lynch, backing vocs and bass also engineered this mix.
Guitars, Dan Fatdog
Drums, Mystery Drummer, Shhhhhhh! I can't say at the moment. He is very good eh mate?
(Posted with permission. I am testing the new mp3 feature on this site. Please note that you must have the Quicktime player to play the sample. If you don't have the player, just go to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ and download the free player.)




Josh, My copy of In the Battle just arrived in the mail. I was surprised to see the picture the band signed. I wanted to thank you guys for adding that nice gift for your fans. God bless you guys, -Tim
Dear Josh and Saint, Just heard In the Battle. Then I heard it again. And again. Then a few (hundred) more times through the week. Drove down the street with the windows open in the dead of winter, snow blowing everywhere, just so others could hear it as well. Truly an amazing job, you guys! A WOW moment in your careers after being away so long. WOW stands for worthy of worship. Praise God that He is using Saint so effectively and has blessed you all with such great songs, lyrically and especially musically. The quality is superb! I'm proud of you all.
I had the chance this week to witness to a new friend I met from downstairs in my apartment block. His favorite band is Judas Priest. So guess which christian CD i borrowed him. lol.
I hope things are going great for you guys. If you ever come close to Winnipeg, (Grand Forks, Fargo) let me know because I would love to see you guys live.
I really believe God brought you into my path in May as I was feeling very down trying to find a job. The letters I got from you lifted me up and gave me a chance to feel good about me again. Thank you so much.
Anyway, going to end it here. Just wanted to make sure i keep touch with you. If you or anyone in your church or ministry are ever in need of meds and want to save money let me know and I will point you to the company I am with now. That is not a plug for the company, I just know that there are a few churches and ministries who recommend their missionaries and congregation to us as medication is so expensive in the states and affordable to get from Canada. In Christ, David